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[Meesjee]

Ok so... since all members from WF could kick person i have the feeling that more people want to join WF again.
So my suggestion is.

By giving the new members, a few weeks or maybe a month to show them self if they can control themselves.
Some kinda aproval time, if they are loyal to WF and they are not in the clan just for kick. And if they are they get admin. If not they get kicked, or will not get admin.

[eagleye]

This would be why we're an invite-only clan. However, I would like to reiterate that especially because of the admin ability, we should be extra careful to not let other people 'invite' themselves, per say.

[Mild Gobstoppers]

Yes the invite only thing was a good idea. but mezens got a point

maybe u should hold out on the admin until a preset time.

extra precaution.

(lol i post every once in a while)

[Snowman]

People can get invited and still abuse kick...
I like the idea of a screening period.

[eagleye]

then it would make more sense to just make a 'pre-member' stage before a complete member. so they don't have access to the restricted forums etc. And just so you know, i doubt you will be able to tell whether or not they'll abuse based on how they post/play in such a short time (you could, of course, be sure that they're an abuser, but not vice-versa).

[jaZ]

Well I sure hope we aren't anyone but those we know very well from the servers after playing with them consistently for a time and wouldn't suspect them of abuse of any kind. I don't think it's an incredibly pressing issue... besides, we have one chance, so there is no possibility of loose ends or people getting off the hook. If they abuse, they are out for good, and I think I would like to know if they are abusers or not the moment they join the clan. However, if you're looking forward mass invites then I suppose it would be a good system... -.-

[Koala]

Thats the points with that "Invite only" system. Just like jaZ says.

[Dynamic]

Mezen, this is an invite only system. So we hand pick the most reliable, skilled and mature players. And anyway, if they did abuse; then they are completely screwed. A oneway ticket out of this clan. We have given you a big responcibility, you have [limited] administration powers. And therefore you are ment to be the best and should be worthy of such.

Our system is very safe, we filter through the best and then we give them a reward for owning so much. And please, be happy with what you've been given. If they keep on reconnecting call a sup. and we'll come and ban them if necessary.

[eagleye]

ItsDC, on Feb 26 2008, 01:15 PM, said:

Mezen, this is an invite only system. So we hand pick the most reliable, skilled and mature players. And anyway, if they did abuse; then they are completely screwed. A oneway ticket out of this clan. We have given you a big responcibility, you have [limited] administration powers. And therefore you are ment to be the best and should be worthy of such.

Our system is very safe, we filter through the best and then we give them a reward for owning so much. And please, be happy with what you've been given. If they keep on reconnecting call a sup. and we'll come and ban them if necessary.

I think it's safe to say you completely missed the point of this thread.

[Meesjee]

eagleye, on Feb 26 2008, 07:47 PM, said:

I think it's safe to say you completely missed the point of this thread.

Ye i think so to, but i mean itsDc, That members should get a period time of beining in WF with no admin, and if there matured they can have admin. But like some people said, 1 abuse = kick .

[Alex]

ItsDC, on Feb 26 2008, 06:15 PM, said:

Mezen, this is an invite only system. So we hand pick the most reliable, skilled and mature players. And anyway, if they did abuse; then they are completely screwed. A oneway ticket out of this clan. We have given you a big responcibility, you have [limited] administration powers. And therefore you are ment to be the best and should be worthy of such.

Our system is very safe, we filter through the best and then we give them a reward for owning so much. And please, be happy with what you've been given. If they keep on reconnecting call a sup. and we'll come and ban them if necessary.

Exactly.

If you invite someone, you should not be concerned that they'll abuse admin. In fact maybe we should penalise Sups if they continuously invite abusers.....

[Coverfire]

But the way it happens without an application it is almost as if some members are thrown into us since some of the new invites don't really post much before they join. I agree that we can pretty much trust any sup. or above's judgement on who is trustworthy and who isn't, but it would be nice for us to get to know them better before they join.

[jaZ]

Alex, on Feb 26 2008, 04:28 PM, said:

Exactly.

If you invite someone, you should not be concerned that they'll abuse admin. In fact maybe we should penalise Sups if they continuously invite abusers.....

Hehe, I know you're serious.

Coverfire, on Feb 26 2008, 05:29 PM, said:

But the way it happens without an application it is almost as if some members are thrown into us since some of the new invites don't really post much before they join. I agree that we can pretty much trust any sup. or above's judgement on who is trustworthy and who isn't, but it would be nice for us to get to know them better before they join.

Sup. forums ftw.
You can get to know them when they join. If any of your opinions were particularly valued in that sense, you would probably already be a sup (or in the process )

[Coverfire]

jaZ, on Feb 26 2008, 07:48 PM, said:

Hehe, I know you're serious.




Sup. forums ftw.
You can get to know them when they join. If any of your opinions were particularly valued in that sense, you would probably already be a sup (or in the process )

I take offense to that

You sort of make it sound as if the opinions of any member lower than sup. mean nothing, which according to Jack's post in another topic in which he stated "we do want to listen to the community" isn't true. Sure, a sup.'s opinion does carry more weight on it than that of a regular member such as myself, but that does not mean I, and the rest of the clan, are completely ignored. But It would be nice if these new members would all post introduction topics, only about half of them have.

[eagleye]

Coverfire, on Feb 26 2008, 09:12 PM, said:

I take offense to that

You sort of make it sound as if the opinions of any member lower than sup. mean nothing, which according to Jack's post in another topic in which he stated "we do want to listen to the community" isn't true. Sure, a sup.'s opinion does carry more weight on it than that of a regular member such as myself, but that does not mean I, and the rest of the clan, are completely ignored. But It would be nice if these new members would all post introduction topics, only about half of them have.

Your opinion will always be important to me, coverfire.

But ya, it would be nice to have the new members be more actively involved in the community. That's why I'm now advocating for a 'pre-member' stage that could last upto a month, and would be a good way of introducing people to Wildfire.

[Davidbritsky]

IMO Sups opinion means nothing. they are just powerful noobs that dont know anything. the members are the true brainiacs they play on the server more cuse there are more of them. they are the community not us sups we are just the watch dogs that thing we are important but in reality normal members are the important ones

[jaZ]

Well wildfire has never been a democracy but I honestly don't see the difference between inviting a mature and trusted player who won't likely abuse, and getting to know him before or after he joined or even in a 'pre member' stage. Either way you get to know him, and either way he is reliable (and if he's not, like Alex said, the sup. who invited him could get quite the penalization). That's why I said that about being a sup. (not to offend), because it's really only the sup. that can invite (As far as I know...?) and the sup. should be inviting people that are mature, trustworthy ect. So you can get to know the person before or after the invitation. What's the big difference? You could always make a reference to a potential clan member.

[Graham]

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