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#1 SandWorm

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Posted 24 December 2007 - 05:56 PM

There's some things horribly wrong with this server.

1) Cheaters everywhere, nearly every time I have played.
Can't you have a better security system or some mod?
Maybe even make someone else an admin/supervisor so there is 247 surveillance.
Nothing happens when we try to requestban them out...

2) Laggers with >100 ping or even >300! Why isn't there a PINGLIMIT?
It's very unplayable if someone has over 100 ping even if you don't.
I suggest a pinglimit of 80ms.

3) Awp campers, just camping in spawn spots and blasting away.
Some limit to awp usage would be nice, like maybe you can have awp once but not the next time you die.

Otherwise it's a good server, but these things need to be sorted out.

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Posted 24 December 2007 - 06:13 PM

View PostSandWorm, on Dec 24 2007, 12:56 PM, said:

There's some things horribly wrong with this server.

1) Cheaters everywhere, nearly every time I have played.
Can't you have a better security system or some mod?
Maybe even make someone else an admin/supervisor so there is 247 surveillance.
Nothing happens when we try to requestban them out...
I've only seen one, and I play a lot on most days.
2) Laggers with >100 ping or even >300! Why isn't there a PINGLIMIT?
It's very unplayable if someone has over 100 ping even if you don't.
I suggest a pinglimit of 80ms.
There is one, at 250ms
3) Awp campers, just camping in spawn spots and blasting away.
Some limit to awp usage would be nice, like maybe you can have awp once but not the next time you die.
awp and auto-snipers are often restricted if an admin had been playing there earlier
Otherwise it's a good server, but these things need to be sorted out.


#3 2Fast4You

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Posted 24 December 2007 - 07:24 PM

Ageed with SandWorm, there is cheaters almost evertime i play there, to be true, there has been cheaters everyday the last 2 weeks.
To be onest with you, i would love to help you out with all theese cheaters, i am Superadmin With another (Clan) here in Norway, maybe you have heard about us, Superserver.no/LSA.
So i have experience on this field.
And i am not talking ######, i am 26 and i know what i am talking about.
You have very good servers, but this problem, should be fixed very soon, or else you will loose players.

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Posted 24 December 2007 - 07:42 PM

erm, ever heard of requestban?

with 80ms pinglimit there would be only cl_cmdrate "hackers" :)

and, you can get restricted awp easily with console command

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Posted 24 December 2007 - 08:52 PM

View PostHyRsY, on Dec 24 2007, 08:42 PM, said:

erm, ever heard of requestban?

with 80ms pinglimit there would be only cl_cmdrate "hackers" :)

and, you can get restricted awp easily with console command
Doh... you have not got the attention here.. of course we know about requestban, i have used it alot, but nothing happends with the ban.

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Posted 24 December 2007 - 09:05 PM

View Post2Fast4You, on Dec 24 2007, 10:52 PM, said:

Doh... you have not got the attention here.. of course we know about requestban, i have used it alot, but nothing happends with the ban.

all good things comes to those who waits, no-one doesnt get ban with one request

you know, i prefer admin and modding things also. im ex-co-owner of AS CSS community B)

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Posted 24 December 2007 - 10:42 PM

Dude, our admins are trying there best.

We got more the just 1 server, i think we have like 8.
Imagine we got this many complainer per 1 server...
And 24 / 7 admin is alot u know.

That means 2 to 4 persons on every servers is 32 admins.

32 admins is alot to watch over as a leader.

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Posted 25 December 2007 - 07:36 PM

clearly no one of the admins are answering my PMs, may i ask why?
The Server is laggy like ****, surely cos of high pingers... if you guys need help running theese servers, i will be glad to help you, that is just a suggestion, and i love your servers

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Posted 26 December 2007 - 02:37 PM

If u love our servers u would have pacient. So we can discuss this in main time.

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Posted 27 December 2007 - 12:18 AM

View Post2Fast4You, on Dec 25 2007, 07:36 PM, said:

clearly no one of the admins are answering my PMs, may i ask why?
The Server is laggy like ****, surely cos of high pingers... if you guys need help running theese servers, i will be glad to help you, that is just a suggestion, and i love your servers
what are you on about?

just because some people have high ping does not make the server laggy.


requestban doesn't immediately ban people who get requests against them. The system is designed so that it takes a certain (undisclosed) number or requests to ban them, and it's checked by me before the ban is imposed.

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Posted 27 December 2007 - 05:12 AM

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It's very unplayable if someone has over 100 ping even if you don't.

I doubt even DOOM1 had this issue, perhaps you should read up on your networking.

If your have lag then it's either because your PC is too slow to render that many players(low framerates), or your internet is too slow(network lag).

Even in Japan(250-300 ping) I can play on UK3 and still get a good score, however the issues of lag are very noticeable but if anything it makes me a better player as I need faster reaction times to kill players :P.

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Posted 27 December 2007 - 02:55 PM

View Post2Fast4You, on Dec 25 2007, 02:36 PM, said:

clearly no one of the admins are answering my PMs, may i ask why?
The Server is laggy like ****, surely cos of high pingers... if you guys need help running theese servers, i will be glad to help you, that is just a suggestion, and i love your servers
the lag is probably from all of the objects. your processor has to keep track of every block in breakfloor, and wether it is broken or not. The lag is probably worse on busy servers, and much worse on breakfloor than any other map.

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Posted 01 January 2008 - 09:42 PM

Halo is the only game that has this issue of "shared lag"

cl_cmdrate does not fool the pinglimet kicker.

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Posted 02 January 2008 - 12:18 AM

2fast4you

you make me really laugh "To be onest with you, i would love to help you out with all theese cheaters, i am Superadmin With another (Clan) here in Norway" now where on earth do you think that will convince the Ldrs in WF to give u admin? :P


but anyways, there aint any cheaters around, it is only you guys that get pwnd, the only problem i see on their servers now days are TKers, campers and ppl that trench. NO cheaters trusth me ;)

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Posted 02 January 2008 - 07:35 PM

View PostJack, on Dec 27 2007, 02:18 AM, said:

what are you on about?

just because some people have high ping does not make the server laggy.


requestban doesn't immediately ban people who get requests against them. The system is designed so that it takes a certain (undisclosed) number or requests to ban them, and it's checked by me before the ban is imposed.


View PostSemph, on Jan 2 2008, 02:18 AM, said:

2fast4you

you make me really laugh "To be onest with you, i would love to help you out with all theese cheaters, i am Superadmin With another (Clan) here in Norway" now where on earth do you think that will convince the Ldrs in WF to give u admin? :P


but anyways, there aint any cheaters around, it is only you guys that get pwnd, the only problem i see on their servers now days are TKers, campers and ppl that trench. NO cheaters trusth me ;)

agreed with you, mate, and heres your answer, Jack

vac blocks most of hacks and sv_pure disables material hacks

i couldnt even try hack on WF servers

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Posted 03 January 2008 - 02:31 AM

Look, another person's lag DOES NOT affect you, this is a huge misconception among players, requestban as Jack said takes an undisclosed amount of requests to ban someone, and you being a "superadmin" (which isn't even a proper term as far as I'm concerned) doesn't mean you are that good of an admin, and it also doesn't mean we are just going to throw admin at you. Also just because someone is really good doesn't mean they hack.

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Posted 03 January 2008 - 04:44 PM

View PostCoverfire, on Jan 3 2008, 04:31 AM, said:

Look, another person's lag DOES NOT affect you, this is a huge misconception among players, requestban as Jack said takes an undisclosed amount of requests to ban someone, and you being a "superadmin" (which isn't even a proper term as far as I'm concerned) doesn't mean you are that good of an admin, and it also doesn't mean we are just going to throw admin at you. Also just because someone is really good doesn't mean they hack.

agreed

You got the another change to get admin when Jack is very drunk. banning with mani's ban command isnt so hard :)

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Posted 03 January 2008 - 05:20 PM

WOwowowo, easy ppl, i see alot of you guys are really young nothing negative with that, it just tell me much about your experience
My PC is fast enough for most of the games today, no doubt. (FPS 114 avg.)
and i know i have fast enough Network. so dont critisys my PC or my network.
If you guys are so damn clever and know everything about Computers/network why the heck do i spot Cheaters and you dont?
NONONO its not skills, please dont say that, I know how Aimbot/WH/Speedhack etc. works.
I thought this was a serious server community, but abously i was very wrong.
I wanna say thx for playing with you on the servers, you will not see me on your servers again.
unless i get an exuse.

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Posted 03 January 2008 - 08:04 PM

lol

well, sorry to disapoint you, but i think your not getting free admins even you request them hard

agreed with semph, trust me, theres no hackers.. probaly some skilled players. i also know how aimbot, WH and speedhack works. theyr pretty simple. and even detectable with eventscripts (dunno with WH but..)

and may i ask, what is realy your point here? getting free admin or trying to get someone banned?

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Posted 04 January 2008 - 12:48 AM

so ppl have wallhack cause they find you under the floor?

i give u an 1on1 on breakfloor, i will EASILY find you under there, no matter where you hiding

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Posted 04 January 2008 - 05:51 PM

View Post2Fast4You, on Jan 3 2008, 05:20 PM, said:

WOwowowo, easy ppl, i see alot of you guys are really young nothing negative with that, it just tell me much about your experience
My PC is fast enough for most of the games today, no doubt. (FPS 114 avg.)
and i know i have fast enough Network. so dont critisys my PC or my network.
If you guys are so damn clever and know everything about Computers/network why the heck do i spot Cheaters and you dont?
NONONO its not skills, please dont say that, I know how Aimbot/WH/Speedhack etc. works.
I thought this was a serious server community, but abously i was very wrong.
I wanna say thx for playing with you on the servers, you will not see me on your servers again.
unless i get an exuse.
Age != maturity != experience.

Lots of people often criticize others of cheating, when in fact they're just good. One of my best friends made a massive collage of screenshots he'd taken of everyone telling him that he hacked. He's never cheated in his life, he was just good, coming in in the top 3 at a major UK LAN tournament (the i series).
Heck, I've been accused of hacking plenty, I'm not even that good.

Now, I'm not saying that there aren't cheaters out there, but they're less common than people think they are.

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Posted 05 January 2008 - 11:05 PM

View Post2Fast4You, on Jan 3 2008, 05:20 PM, said:

WOwowowo, easy ppl, i see alot of you guys are really young nothing negative with that, it just tell me much about your experience
My PC is fast enough for most of the games today, no doubt. (FPS 114 avg.)
and i know i have fast enough Network. so dont critisys my PC or my network.
If you guys are so damn clever and know everything about Computers/network why the heck do i spot Cheaters and you dont?
NONONO its not skills, please dont say that, I know how Aimbot/WH/Speedhack etc. works.
I thought this was a serious server community, but abously i was very wrong.
I wanna say thx for playing with you on the servers, you will not see me on your servers again.
unless i get an exuse.

Seriously if your gonna try and be condescending and patronizing then get your facts right, im 22, and the maturity here is pretty high. . . im not saying there aren't cheeters on our servers but seriously, the entire moral structure of your post was undermined y the fact you started ranting like a little sissy half way down. Abusing the majority of the clan is not a good move so really, go figure.

View PostJack, on Jan 4 2008, 05:51 PM, said:

Age != maturity != experience.

Lots of people often criticize others of cheating, when in fact they're just good. One of my best friends made a massive collage of screenshots he'd taken of everyone telling him that he hacked. He's never cheated in his life, he was just good, coming in in the top 3 at a major UK LAN tournament (the i series).
Heck, I've been accused of hacking plenty, I'm not even that good.

Now, I'm not saying that there aren't cheaters out there, but they're less common than people think they are.

Yeh i got accused of hacking the other day. I smiled and took it as a compliment.

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Posted 14 January 2008 - 12:05 PM

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WOwowowo[SIC], easy ppl[SIC], i[SIC] see alot[SIC] of you guys are really young[SIC] nothing negative with that, it just tell[SIC] me much about your experience[SIC]

Judging by your writing I'd estimate you to be 12? Before you start insulting our experience maybe you should actually read what bull###### you just wrote and see how much of a moron you look(i.e. in addition to your current level).

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it just tell[SIC] me much about your experience[SIC]
My PC is fast enough for most of the games today, no doubt. (FPS 114 avg.)

Clearly you don't know enough about computers to search for a spell checker? And what do you mean 114FPS average on your PC? That means nothing.

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and i[SIC] know i[SIC] have fast enough Network. so dont [SIC]critisys[SIC] my PC or my network.

Even if your network is capable of sending data fast that doesn't mean you have low ping.

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If you guys are so damn clever and know everything about Computers/network[SIC] why the heck do i[SIC] spot Cheaters and you dont[SIC]?

We don't spot them? Well I certainly can't spot them when offline but usually aimbotters are incredibly easy to spot, people like wallhackers are far harder to identify and you probably assume everyone who makes semi-suspicious kills are, which clearly shows you'd make a crap admin.

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NONONO[SIC] its[SIC] not skills, please dont[SIC] say that, I know how Aimbot/WH/Speedhack etc. works.

Sure you do...

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I thought this was a serious server community, but abously[SIC] i[SIC] was very wrong.

What?

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I wanna say thx[SIC] for playing with you on the servers, you will not see me on your servers again.
[SIC]unless i[SIC] get an exuse.

Good, one less noob.

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Posted 15 January 2008 - 12:12 PM

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I wanna say thx for playing with you on the servers, you will not see me on your servers again.
unless i get an exuse.

:lol: so your trying to blackmail us to give you free admin because of your "experience" what we all got?

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Posted 23 January 2008 - 11:40 PM

View Post2Fast4You, on Jan 3 2008, 05:20 PM, said:

WOwowowo, easy ppl, i see alot of you guys are really young nothing negative with that, it just tell me much about your experience
My PC is fast enough for most of the games today, no doubt. (FPS 114 avg.)
and i know i have fast enough Network. so dont critisys my PC or my network.
If you guys are so damn clever and know everything about Computers/network why the heck do i spot Cheaters and you dont?
NONONO its not skills, please dont say that, I know how Aimbot/WH/Speedhack etc. works.
I thought this was a serious server community, but abously i was very wrong.
I wanna say thx for playing with you on the servers, you will not see me on your servers again.
unless i get an exuse.
Uh...how old do you have to be to play a game, as you said in your "well written and thoughtful" paragraph.




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