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#1 Dave

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Posted 20 April 2007 - 12:17 AM

Hellfire Situation

For those who have not been on the forums in the last few days, basically a fraction of the wildfire members decided to start a new clan, which has lead to a number of people moving over to them from us.

Now Hellfire is basically meant to be a clan in which they do things differently from wildfire and hellzone. Still at this point if you pay attention you will see that there recruitment process, forum layouts and squads are very similar to our own.

To add to that yes they will give you admin, and everything will see friendly at the start, but that is only because they are picking and choosing members from wildfire. They will like every other clan begin to have problems once they get members which they don't know from previous clans.

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View PostThink, on Apr 20 2007, 12:06 AM, said:

I dont have much to say about this but lets do a friendly scrim Luca ;) then we will see that it dont matter if they were once Lt and Capt. Just cause they were low rank dont mean they suck Luca and if u believe that ur dumb. I didnt want to throw this low blow but everyone in my clan has higher stats then u and im sorry i threw that blow but u are causing problems in my clan already.

I am going to defend wildfire here, just as you would. Maybe you have taken many of the wildfire skilled players, but we still have something that you don't have; skilled administrators who can develop programs and do many more admin tasks than any of your "admins" can. You did for example rip the applications topic on your forum from us and used a templates website. You can't even install the newest version of IP.Board?

The Point

So my point to everyone here is that if you want to join Hellfire then fine, but when you really think about it, it's just a poorly implemented version of wildfire, and I say that because they opened applications before they sorted the initial site, which really isn't professional or organized at all. And don't get me wrong, i'm not saying hellfire will fail, but it's not quite original either.

Scrims

And to those who want more scrims well the "Cols" who moved to hellfire have always been able to do it in WF, so it doesn't mean it is going to happen over there. On the bright side Col. Artinium will hopefully be arranging regular scrims for us now and we have the internal tournaments coming up in about a month.

Closing Note

So if your looking for a more long term clan that is making developments in the community then stick with us; we are offering things back to the community, such as mani-admin tools that are used on a daily basis.

If you want admin and nothing else then maybe another clan is more suitable.

If you have any queries regarding any of this then please post. Can I make it clear that we are not going to fight/argue with them, I'm just giving people a heads up to what they can expect if they are to leave and to update those who are not in the loop. It is at the end of the day 100% your choice.

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Positive Notes

On the positive side of things we have now been able to promote several people who have been waiting for promotions for sometime now and is now in the progress of coding and bringing together our new team to deal with a brand new recuritment process which will be due to go live we hope next month.

Hellzone Clan (Not Hellfire)

We have now arranged with hellzone that they will no longer recruit members that leave wildfire ever, nor will we recruit there members. We are in the progress of making a truce and hope to start organizing more often friendly matches against them.

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Posted 20 April 2007 - 12:29 AM

very well writed...

looking forward for friendly scrims :)

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Posted 20 April 2007 - 12:32 AM

jeez just take my ideas :P

and BTW disregard everything think said about me in that quote, we talked for awhile, he was just real busy and a lil pissed, but we r cool now, and i never started anything with that clan

i have also been pushing to lower the hostilities from their forums, and so far its working ;)

every listen to the man, its a good idea

gj alex, dave, and jack ;)

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Posted 20 April 2007 - 01:30 AM

lol dave nicely, truly, and well said. and it makes me feel better. lol. so glad im in this clan :D not that theirs isnt good, (plus i would never leave wf) or doesnt have good ideas with all the admin given out (free admin to new players? uhh.... bad things.) for better admin patrolling or abuse on their servers. well i cant complain about our clan coz its so cool :D

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Posted 20 April 2007 - 01:32 AM

Dave im only trying to see what it feel like to have my own clan please respect that. U did the same thing to get WF a year ago so i hope u understand.I still want u and ale and jack to be friends with me. and on that message u sent me i might have erased u as a friend on accident cause i wass erasing people i didn't know and i am sorry.

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Posted 20 April 2007 - 01:35 AM

Best of luck to em all.

How about a new rule: people who clan hop aren't allowed back in? I see the future repeating itself.

and cmon, not to be mean, but how original is hellfire

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Posted 20 April 2007 - 01:36 AM

WF - logic + 5 promotions = HF

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Posted 20 April 2007 - 01:36 AM

View PostPJOM, on Apr 19 2007, 09:35 PM, said:

Best of luck to em all.

How about a new rule: people who clan hop aren't allowed back in? I see the future repeating itself.

and cmon, not to be mean, but how original is hellfire
i dont know about that... all people make mistakes and in wf we like to give second chances. if you make the mistake more then 2 times, then yes your out.

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Posted 20 April 2007 - 01:37 AM

Its wierd seeing Think as a member and not an admin no more :P
And its also wierd seeing Jaz as a Col. :P :P

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Posted 20 April 2007 - 01:40 AM

View PostMild Gobstoppers, on Apr 19 2007, 09:37 PM, said:

Its wierd seeing Think as a member and not an admin no more :P
And its also wierd seeing Jaz as a Col. :P :P
HEY! im plenty fine for this position. there is nothing wrong with ME as col. it should be totally real to see someone destined to power to have a higher rank. ';..;' dont make me kill u ;)

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Posted 20 April 2007 - 01:47 AM

View PostjaZ, on Apr 19 2007, 07:40 PM, said:

HEY! im plenty fine for this position. there is nothing wrong with ME as col. it should be totally real to see someone destined to power to have a higher rank. ';..;' dont make me kill u ;)


AHHH DEATH THREAT. INSTANT DEMOTION PLEASE :P

(admins are scary)(can turn you into a bomb instantly)(or slap ur brains out)

AND I'M OFF.(Whew)

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Posted 20 April 2007 - 01:50 AM

Yeah guys.....so I was thinking I would just go and make a new clan.
I can go tonight to one of those free forum thingies and make an account.
Haven't quite decided on the name, it's gonna be one of these lets vote:
WildZone
FireZone
WildHell
FireHell
While i'm deciding, I figure I can just go ahead and go onto the WF servers and nag people until they join my clan (WZ FZ WH or FH).
Then, I will tell them they can be a super general colonel rank if they can host a server.
Once all that is done, I will have admin to server and be a high rank and I can tell my mom to be proud of me.
So, who all wants to join?

If you're not drowning in the irony yet read it again.

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Posted 20 April 2007 - 02:19 AM

wow dave that makes you seem really smart........
ur my hero :wub:

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Posted 20 April 2007 - 02:25 AM

waffle you seem really smart ...your my hero :wub:

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Posted 20 April 2007 - 02:37 AM

omg i wuv interpol

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Posted 20 April 2007 - 02:43 AM

:o you called me interpol...

i guess im not an interdolt anymore :(

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Posted 20 April 2007 - 02:50 AM

interdooooolt

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Posted 20 April 2007 - 02:51 AM

holy crap your a lt? since when?

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Posted 20 April 2007 - 03:00 AM

since yesterday. however, i noticed vladplaya is a captain and he joined like 2 weeks after me so its possible

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Posted 20 April 2007 - 03:01 AM

LMFAO

vlad is Cpt???

pvt to cpt, i think thats a new record

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Posted 20 April 2007 - 03:07 AM

it all depends on how crazy the colonel is

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Posted 20 April 2007 - 03:16 AM

View PostWaffle Factor, on Apr 19 2007, 09:07 PM, said:

it all depends on how crazy the colonel is

You and me both know that all Colonels are crazy. COME ON. Common knowledge.

lol HF is basically a spawn from WF and HZ so its like......... UUUHhhhgg. nvm

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Posted 20 April 2007 - 05:33 AM

I don't see any reason to "***** fight" between clans, well unless one is cheating ofcourse :P Anyways, HF have fun and good luck, but I see no reason to join them :) I could care less about admin rights or promotions, if I want to I will put a server online myself :P

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Posted 20 April 2007 - 06:38 AM

View PostThInK, on Apr 20 2007, 02:32 AM, said:

Dave im only trying to see what it feel like to have my own clan please respect that. U did the same thing to get WF a year ago so i hope u understand.I still want u and ale and jack to be friends with me. and on that message u sent me i might have erased u as a friend on accident cause i wass erasing people i didn't know and i am sorry.

I can understand that, and I do respect that part. But the difference is when we started, we started small and we didn't ask other members from other clans to join.

But I think I have said everything on the issue that needs to be said from my point of view, and remember you got to also respect that we are still a clan too, not a feeding ground ;)

I guess I will speak to you on xfire.

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Posted 20 April 2007 - 06:43 AM

Miss done Quote: pvt to cpt, i think thats a new record


Just wait for my Pvt - Maj or col! :P lol

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Posted 20 April 2007 - 07:27 AM

Wow, that was awesome writed, Dave. You're my hero!!

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Posted 20 April 2007 - 07:45 AM

I thought I was fast with my promtion to Lt. in 2 days. Respect for Vladplaya :P

I'll stick with WF ofcourse. It's obvious that HF has nothing more to offer than WF. I wish them luck, but I don't understand why they want to make a new clan that's looks like WF. Seems pretty useless.

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Posted 20 April 2007 - 08:03 AM

View PostEppie, on Apr 20 2007, 07:45 AM, said:

I'll stick with WF ofcourse. It's obvious that HF has nothing more to offer than WF. I wish them luck, but I don't understand why they want to make a new clan that's looks like WF. Seems pretty useless.
Exatly. HF is nearly the same as WF.

But WF has alot better and skilled admins like Dave, Alex, Jack, Mike, Wasti, Hawk and Villan :)

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Posted 20 April 2007 - 09:27 AM

View PostMild Gobstoppers, on Apr 19 2007, 11:16 PM, said:

You and me both know that all Colonels are crazy. COME ON. Common knowledge.

lol HF is basically a spawn from WF and HZ so its like......... UUUHhhhgg. nvm

The only problem is, there are no HZ players.....only the ones that went to HZ for like a week before. And then may I note came back asking to get back in. All the players are from WF.

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Posted 20 April 2007 - 10:25 AM

View PostInTeRpOl, on Apr 19 2007, 11:01 PM, said:

LMFAO

vlad is Cpt???

pvt to cpt, i think thats a new record

Well something like that did happen. jaZ went from Lt to maj not that far back mostly because he's been in the clan for ages i mean he's member 43 and he joined in july so he deserved it.




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