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[Yoso Saxo]

Hey guys
I'm playing with sully at uk1..
And we saw that we can spray..
So something is rong..

[Flasherr]

whats wrong with spraying ?

[Killerace]

sv_pure isn't working then.

[Apolloz]

Someone need to get there and turn sv_pure back to 2.

[Yoso Saxo]

I think so

[Killerace]

Apolloz, on 13 January 2010 - 07:30 PM, said:

Someone with rcon need to get there and turn sv_pure back to 2.

So Graham, that would be yor part?!

But it is also possible to change this with HLSW or the ftp access.

[Major Casey]

arent we supposed to could spray on the WF servers? and why not?

(its ok for me)

[Killerace]

we have some settings which prevent wallhackers. but because of these settings you can't see your spray logos.

[Flasherr]

Oh okay. thanks for explaining.

[Major Casey]

Killerace, on 14 January 2010 - 12:52 PM, said:

we have some settings which prevent wallhackers. but because of these settings you can't see your spray logos.

ok, good that u stop wallhackers

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[tssge]

Sorry to ruin you, but if someone wants to wallhack, they wallhack (even with materials), that's why i was banned a long ago.
Pure can be easily overdriven.

Well my wallhack actually was homemade, i realized, that cheating is so ######nig stupid, and decided to report the cheat to VALVe staff, and i was so thankfull that VAC didn't strike me. (Stopped cheating ofc)

[Killerace]

if they bypass sv_pure they can get busted by vac. if sv_pure is set 0, they don't have to bypass it and don't get busted by vac, tssge.

[tssge]

I'll tell you why my wallhack, and sv_pure bypass (if done right) is unbanable. You know, that VAC scans your game DURING CONNECTING/PLAYING to/on server. It's funny tho, that if you change a value with mem editor before joining, it stays the same, even when joining a server, and VAC wasn't online when change took effect and poof, unbannable cheat.

[Blaze]

Sorry to ruin your fun, but that's easily detectable. Especially if you are using a well-known memory editor like Cheat Engine.

[tssge]

Blaze, on 30 January 2010 - 09:24 AM, said:

Sorry to ruin your fun, but that's easily detectable. Especially if you are using a well-known memory editor like Cheat Engine.

You did't get my point. VAC starts when you join a server. If you change the value before joining server, it's impossible to ban you. I hope steam guys do something to it, i did sv_cheats 1 with cheatengine a thousand times, and no VAC, go see cheatengine forums, there's the r_drawothermodels 2 cheat.

[Blaze]

VAC can easily detect that if they wanted, and I never said that it can detect it at the moment. 3rd party anti cheats like Detox already ban for using this.

Even a simple server side check would eliminate the usage of this kind hacks. If ClientSvCheats.Value != ServerSvCheats.Value -> kick

Also VAC2 is loaded up when the game starts, VAC1 module was downloaded when you joined the game.

[Killerace]

tssge, vac is now able to detect memoryhacks. sorry to ruin your fun. and don't get banned.

[tssge]

O-M-G, didn't you read my post ? THE VALUE IS CHANGED BEFORE VAC IS RUNNING. That's why it can't, or couldn't detect it before. But know i think it will never be bannable, because VAC caanot be made, that it runs before joining game, because people would get banned even on non-VAC servers. I can draw you a picture or timeline if you still don't understand.

+If VAC would ban for this, a bug could result in the Sv_cheats variable differing from the server, so this could result in people getting false bans.

[Blaze]

tssge, on 30 January 2010 - 12:30 PM, said:

O-M-G, didn't you read my post ? THE VALUE IS CHANGED BEFORE VAC IS RUNNING. That's why it can't, or couldn't detect it before. But know i think it will never be bannable, because VAC caanot be made, that it runs before joining game, because people would get banned even on non-VAC servers. I can draw you a picture or timeline if you still don't understand.

+If VAC would ban for this, a bug could result in the Sv_cheats variable differing from the server, so this could result in people getting false bans.

What? VAC is able (if they wanted) to check for memory edits. Which would mean game over to your so called cheat.
Also, VAC wouldn't just ban for having different CVAR value than the server, as it only bans for modifications in dlls, exes or memory.

[Killerace]

tssge, haven't you read my post? I said vac is now able to detect these kind of hacks, which modify your game before you join a server. and they are called memoryhacks. being able to read is an advantage, isn't it?

but I see you are too pro and can make your own hacks which never get detected. good luck.

[Planzor]

tssge, on 30 January 2010 - 12:30 PM, said:

O-M-G, didn't you read my post ? THE VALUE IS CHANGED BEFORE VAC IS RUNNING. That's why it can't, or couldn't detect it before. But know i think it will never be bannable, because VAC caanot be made, that it runs before joining game, because people would get banned even on non-VAC servers. I can draw you a picture or timeline if you still don't understand.

+If VAC would ban for this, a bug could result in the Sv_cheats variable differing from the server, so this could result in people getting false bans.

[Flasherr]

Lol tssge, your such a fag. I'm glad your banned on our servers.

[Killerace]

there is no reason to insult him.

[tssge]

? Why am i being flamed ? I myself even reported my cheats to steam, and have stopped cheating ages ago, and i have learned to play for real. But still, even though VAC recognizes memory injections, it can't do anything, if it's not on, on the moment of injection ^^.


And about the sprays, I'd love to spray on the servers, but i like more to have hack-free server than spray ^^ Ain't there addons for this, that you can spray and sv_pure 2 ?

[Planzor]

tssge, on 31 January 2010 - 02:51 PM, said:

? Why am i being flamed ? I myself even reported my cheats to steam, and have stopped cheating ages ago, and i have learned to play for real. But still, even though VAC recognizes memory injections, it can't do anything, if it's not on, on the moment of injection ^^.


And about the sprays, I'd love to spray on the servers, but i like more to have hack-free server than spray ^^ Ain't there addons for this, that you can spray and sv_pure 2 ?

[Blaze]

tssge, on 31 January 2010 - 02:51 PM, said:

? Why am i being flamed ? I myself even reported my cheats to steam, and have stopped cheating ages ago, and i have learned to play for real. But still, even though VAC recognizes memory injections, it can't do anything, if it's not on, on the moment of injection ^^.


And about the sprays, I'd love to spray on the servers, but i like more to have hack-free server than spray ^^ Ain't there addons for this, that you can spray and sv_pure 2 ?

And we generally don't want any mods to our servers, because it's our way to be unique.

[Coverfire]

Oh my god, am I the only one who's head hurts just after reading this guy's posts?

[Killerace]

tssge, when do you realize that VAC is able to catch the people who use memory hacks, although the hack isn't taking influence when they are ingame? how many times do I have to say this now? when do you get it?

[tssge]

The funny thing is; it doesn't, i found a flaw in the VAC's/Source's code. I have used this Wallhack with cheatengine many many many times, it's been 3 months since i used it, so no VAC. That's why i reported it. You don't have to believe if you don't want....

[Killerace]

I'm sorry to tell you, but there was a vac update today. So I doubt that your hacks will still work.