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[3vo]

First off: I dont even know why I was banned in the first place - everyone is quoting the "request ban reasons", yet I was not guilty of any of those especially "cheating" and "team killing". Not to mention that I was banned almost 2 years ago...

I dont think it is reasonable to have a system in place where any player can submit reasons for banning you - especially when the majority of the players are around the age of 15, and have no reason not to put in requests simply if they are losing to you.

I really dont know what happened to everyone that I used to play with here - since I was a member of this clan for around a year. It seems that since I quit you guys are seeking retribution against me for leaving. Which is ridiculous.

[eagleye]

I think I can speak for the entire clan when I say none of us are seeking retribution for you leaving.

I find it entertaining that you can come to us with a straight face and say the requestban system is as bad as you just said. It is by far the best ban system I have ever encountered in any online game. There is only one major flaw with it: and that is that it takes a while to get hackers and tkers etc banned. However, I challenege you to find a system close to as good with identifying such a large percentage of rule breakers. Yes, there are some false positives, but most of the time it's just people who did break the rules and lie about it and (hopefully) want to change their ways. The only other comparable methods are only allowing admins to ban, but that results in a lot less people getting banned, and problems with when someone deserves a global ban.

All requestbans are submitted to a database to be looked over by Jack . If the bans look like people who are just pissed that someone killed them, he will not carry out the ban. You saying that the system is complete crap is an insult to Jack's intelligence and ability, and is the wrong way to go about trying to get unbanned.

I can't speak to whether or not you deserve to be unbanned. My feeling is that typically people who care enough to post on our forums deseve a second chance. As for being in the clan, the only thing I remember about you is seeing you in the members list, because when I was in the clan you were pretty much inactive.

[3vo]

I'm sorry, but I disagree - this system is obviously flawed. I don't care if you believe me or not - but I play videogames for fun, I don't have a reason to team-kill, cheat or make any attempt at artificially making myself appear to be a better player.

As such, you can use me being banned as an example of having a flawed system - its a perfect example. I don't purposefully team-kill - I don't cheat. Like I said, you can believe me or not - but that's how it is.

[Milosevic]

What might have happened is the request bans that you had before you left the clan was enough to global ban you

[3vo]

That may be - it sounds reasonable. But it still doesn't change the fact that I - or anyone else for that matter - could have been banned unjustly.

And eagleye - there's no need to get defensive - the rules said to state why I should be unbanned, and I did.
Its obvious that no one person was responsible for my banning, and since one person cannot be accused it must be the implementation of the system that is to blame. No system is perfect - Its obvious that you guys realize this - or there would be no Help Center section of the forums.

[Killerace]

The system was made for banning people. You were banned. So why is the system not perfect? The reason why you got banned are the other players. Maybe you broke the rules, maybe not. From your posting on the forums I'd say you didn't break the rules, but that is up to Jack. Always keep in mind, it's not the system which isn't perfect, it is the humans.

[3vo]

Yes, killerace. Thats the point. The system is not perfect because of the system - but... "the implementation of the system", like I said in my original post. This game is inhabited by immature boys and their mentality to losing is "WELL F YOU! TAKE THIS!" ... which results in a request ban.

It doesn't matter if there was any infraction, the result is that request bans are inherently biased due to the nature of the player. Even if they are reviewed by and admin before they are officially upheld, how does the admin know whether the request was genuine? How can they? They were not present for the incident - or a requestban would not be needed.

[Jack]

RequestBan isn't perfect... but I do think it's better than the alternatives. As has been said, the weak point is the organic component


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